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Gaditus · Joined: 05 Feb 07 Posts: 1924 Location: Canterbury, UK

I would be interested to know if there is any preference for the way tournaments are scored.

I have decided to use 2nd, 3rd etc places to decide ties, whereas Kanga uses points lost by for his Hacienda tournaments.

There are advantages to both methods.

By placings - 2nd, 3rd etc

Credit is given for finishing ahead of other players, and it therefore takes account of all opponents rather than just the winner.

Each game in a tournament has the same value (ie a 1st, 2nd etc are awarded).

The possibly arbitary fact that the winner gets (say) an extra bonus card does not affect your score.

By cumulative points behind the winner

Your score is not affected by the vagaries of finishing 4th rather than 5th - it is only your points that matter.

Who cares about the minor places?

A severe thrashing gets the penalty it deserves!

The possibly arbitary fact that 3rd place gets (say) an extra bonus card and pushes you into 4th does not affect your score.

I will consider changing for future tournaments if there is an obvious consensus.

Legalu · Joined: 24 Feb 07 Posts: 50

To be honest, I'd rather have a scoring system that is not decided on number of wins as a first criterion. In a 5 games/player, 5-players tournament, a player that finishes 3 games in 2nd and 2 in 3rd should be ahead of another player that wins 1 game and finishes 5th in all other 4 games.

pkwolf54 · Joined: 16 Jul 06 Posts: 61

by placings is great

asnd thanks for running all the tournaments

freduk · Joined: 18 Jan 06 Posts: 433 Location: Bristol, UK

I don't think it really matters, as long as it's decided before the start. There are benefits to both methods; there is no one better way. It's your tournament, you choose how you want to run it.

Kanga · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:49 am Post subject:

Dobinator · Joined: 18 Jul 07 Posts: 383 Location: North Carolina, USA

I'm with Legalu on this one, at least for extreme examples. These games have enough of a random luck component that they're not exactly like the Olympics, which are (ideally) a test of pure skill.

The scoring regime used in the multi-challenges implements a solution to this, where first is far more valuable than second, and second more than third, but each counts for something. I like that.

Legalu · Joined: 24 Feb 07 Posts: 50

tlc · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:50 am Post subject:

I think pts works for Hacienda, but where you place makes more sense for Amun-re.

When you have spent one too many games getting only one bonus card, you start to feel this way. LOL

Gaditus · Joined: 05 Feb 07 Posts: 1924 Location: Canterbury, UK

Interesting - I had assumed that 1st places were all important and everything else was just for breaking ties. Despite Legalu's points, I think I will keep it as it is, if for no other reason than my spreadsheet works that way!

Oddly I did not think that way in the multi challenge tournaments. I had a vague thought that if/when we got to a 5 player version I would need to equate 4 and 5 (and 6) player games in some way and adapting the scoring system I used for the 4 player tournament seemed to be easier.

Thanks for your comments and votes.

On a more important matter, it is probably time to ask for sign ups for new tournaments. I have in mind a standard 5 player and variant 3 and 4 players tournaments. Sign up here.

stargate · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:49 am Post subject:

daveszum · Joined: 28 Oct 07 Posts: 219 Location: CST

I say mix it up and try all of the alternatives. People who have a clear preference against any system will simply not sign up. If you really want to go nuts, do a multicategory tournament for the same game (ie. Amun Re sub tourneys with different scoring system). The person who can win under many of the categories would be the true master Twisted Evil

In any case, I certainly appreciate the time that you put into hosting the tournaments!