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hermes88
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: Possible to end game without buying up all animals? |
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Is there a way to end Hac other than buying all the animals? I thought it would end if both players just hit "end turn" without taking any actions, but that doesn't seem to work. If there isn't a way to do it, then my animal-less maps won't work. In that case, is there a way to have a moderator or something kill the games?
There are 3 such games in my "current games" right now: two with "Void" in the title and one with "Block."
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Gaditus

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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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As long as you create at least 9 seperate land masses you will be able to use the harvests to get money enough to buy out the animals. Probably won't be a particularly fun game, however! |
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hermes88
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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we didn't create that many, and it's not possible to do so now.
Is there some way you can end it for us? Also, the other two similar games should be canceled somehow. |
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hermes88
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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As a future rule change, I'd recommend having it so that if both players 'end turn' without making a move for 3 consecutive turns (or something) then it ends and scores the half.
Marketless maps are interesting and fun in their own way, but as the game is presently constructed, it appears they cannot end (unless the players cooperate to make more than 8 land masses, which I think would be to their strategic disadvantage on my maps.
Even if they could buy up the animals, as the game now functions, there are situations where players could refuse to buy animals to force a draw. |
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Gaditus

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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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hermes88 wrote: |
Is there some way you can end it for us? Also, the other two similar games should be canceled somehow. |
I don't have any special status here - just trying to come up with a way to help you out of a mess.
Hopefully milksheikh will come across your post shortly and help you out. |
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spearjr

Joined: 11 Nov 05 Posts: 206
Location: Southwestern Michigan
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Possible to end game without buying up all animals? |
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hermes88 wrote: | Is there a way to end Hac other than buying all the animals? I thought it would end if both players just hit "end turn" without taking any actions, but that doesn't seem to work. If there isn't a way to do it, then my animal-less maps won't work. In that case, is there a way to have a moderator or something kill the games?
There are 3 such games in my "current games" right now: two with "Void" in the title and one with "Block." |
A game of Hacienda without animals isn't Hacienda, it is a different game. Some maps certainly try to create a different experience, but no markets is breaking a core component of the rules. I don't see the admins changing the code for these types of maps to work as a major priority. |
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Wildfire2099
Joined: 20 Aug 07 Posts: 122
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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I've often thought a 'resign' button would be good, for games that are clearly over.
not sure that would help Hermes though. |
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stargate

Joined: 09 Dec 04 Posts: 603
Location: North Attleboro, Ma USA
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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a few thoughts
1) the site admins have not been deleting broken games,
so the games will go to the abandoned games list in 60 days
2) some of the people who joined these games SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER
I will not list names
3) having the games showing in your games list for 60 days is a great lesson for those involved
>>> yes I am being evil
4) because the games will not be completed >> the map can never become public
5) Wildfire2099 mentioned a "resign" button
instead of a "resign" link / button
maybe a mutual "delete game" link could be added
the game could be deleted if ALL the players agreed and clicked the "delete game" link
>>> this could take care of broken games and games joined of created in error
like some of the tournament games |
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hermes88
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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It's not clear that they'll ever go to "abandoned." I don't want to be considered to have abandoned a game, so I'll keep hitting "end turn." If my opponent does the same, the game never ends. |
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Wildfire2099
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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While a 'delete game' button is also a good idea, it's not the same as 'resign'... I maintain that's a good idea.
I also agree that if you want to play Hacienda without markets, what you really want to do is play some other game. No offense Hermes, but that is kinda silly  |
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IBX
Joined: 22 Jun 07 Posts: 214
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Wildfire2099 wrote: | While a 'delete game' button is also a good idea, it's not the same as 'resign'... I maintain that's a good idea.
I also agree that if you want to play Hacienda without markets, what you really want to do is play some other game. No offense Hermes, but that is kinda silly  |
Resigning a game should only be an option in a 2 player game, if at all. |
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RyanMC SBW Developer

Joined: 13 Sep 05 Posts: 344
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, it has been a while since I have posted anything. I hate real life some times.
I can say with 100% certainty that we won't be doing any code changes to allow no-animal games. A delete game button is probably something that should exist, assuming it had a 100% approval from those in the game. I don't have time to add that right now, but I think its worth having at some point. Resign is impossible in multi player games, unless we add in subs which is a lot of work.
So for now, let the game die via the abandoned games method and it will be fine. Having one abandoned game on your record won't tarnish it. It will just show that you made a broken map  _________________ ---------------
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tripitaka
Joined: 07 Sep 11 Posts: 37
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Any update on this scenario?
In a 2P game, if both people end their turn (without taking any actions), and the animal stack is not yet exhausted, will the game end? or will it keep going on until someone is forced to buy out the animal stack?
I know this thread was started several years ago, just wondered if any modifications to the game have been made since
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