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slith · Joined: 28 Nov 06 Posts: 20 Location: Sydney, Australia

I seem to be the biggest bungler on SBW. I made heaps of mistakes on Amun-Re due to not having a confirm/undo feature. Now I'm having the same problem with Hacienda. Sometimes when I want to play a particular animal or land card from my hand I end up accidentally clicking on the same face-up animal or land card and purchase it by mistake. It seems hard to do, but I'm thinking, "I want to play a sheep," and my eye is drawn to the big picture of the sheep and I unwittingly click on it. Of course, it's not possible to undo an animal or land card purchase. Often, it's not a big issue, but in a game I am currently playing it's potentially cost me the game.

Is there any chance of putting in a confirm option every time a land or animal card is purchased, in a very similar fashion to the way it does when it asks you to confirm your animal or land card purchase if this is your third action?

Cheers,
Jeff.

stargate · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 10:39 am Post subject:

Jeff --- some rules Smile

look before you click
or
think before you click
and
be sure the other players in your games say thank you
when you don't follow rules 1 & 2 Smile

IMHO --- on a scale of 1 -99 (99 being high)
click errors in Hacienda are a 3 vs click errors in Amun-Re being a 97
Bob

spearjr · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:31 am Post subject:

I've made this mistake myself, however I think I would find the confirm more annoying than the occasional mistake.

freduk · Joined: 18 Jan 06 Posts: 433 Location: Bristol, UK

I'm with Slith on this one. I'd rather have the confirm.

stargate · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:56 am Post subject:

Alashar · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject:

I made that mistake the first time I played online, but haven't had a problem since. Sure, it'd be nice if your hand wasn't right next to the purchase deck, but I hardly think it warrants an interface re-design, or worse, a confirm button. If you make enough of those mistakes, you may just learn.

stargate · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject:

slith · Joined: 28 Nov 06 Posts: 20 Location: Sydney, Australia

I don't think it's an "interface redesign" to put the confirm in. There's already a confirm there if you buy a card as your 3rd action. It just needs to be implemented, with slightly different text, if you buy a card as your 1st or 2nd action too. I believe this should be relatively straightforward.

If you don't find it too annoying to have that confirm when you buy a card as your 3rd action, surely it wouldn't be too annoying to have this when buying a card as your 1st and 2nd action?

The reason it can be hard to look before I click is that I am trying to juggle an 8 month old at the same time and I rush to an extent. In any case, I don't see why the games can't be idiot proof. Seems silly to allow the outcome of the game to be determined by a simple mistake. Admittedly, it's not as bad as Amun-Re was before the fixes, but it does happen enough I think to be worth considering.

HappyProle · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject:

I think this reveals a flaw in the interface layout more than anything else. It's too easy to confuse what's in your hand with what is for sale. In retrospect, we should have put those further apart.

slith · Joined: 28 Nov 06 Posts: 20 Location: Sydney, Australia

I think the interface is really good on the whole, but yeah, I think that the layout of your hand and cards for sale is at least half the problem.

GDW · Joined: 11 Dec 06 Posts: 6

Having to confirm every single card would be annoying beyond belief. It is too small of an action and it occurs too frequently.

slith · Joined: 28 Nov 06 Posts: 20 Location: Sydney, Australia

I take it that you are very easily annoyed.

SiddGames · Joined: 07 May 07 Posts: 27 Location: Oklahoma, USA

What if the game had a switch each player could set?

Confirm all card purchases? Yes or No
Use colorblind tile sets? Yes or No

Yes, I just read the "set player color" thread and would like to see that if it weren't too hard, but mainly a colorblind tile set would be nice. I'm red-green color deficient and don't have problems on Hacienda, but have a hard time with the blue/purple in Wallenstein, go figure...

slith · Joined: 28 Nov 06 Posts: 20 Location: Sydney, Australia

I'm "red green colourblind" too and will now head on over to see the "set player colour" thread too. Cool idea. I'm a protonope, which means that I have no red cones in my eyes, just blue and green ones. One effect is that I have great difficulty differentiating between blue and purple. Hacienda is also not a problem for me. SG, perhaps you have missing or dodgy red cones which means you have a different "red green colourblindness" to the majority of people with "red green colourblindness" who have missing or dodgy green cones.

Back on to the topic at hand, the option for each player to customise their interface sounds like a great idea.

domster · Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:13 am Post subject:

I'd just like to add my vote to the confirmation when you buy a card. I've bought a card when I've meant to play one from my hand a few times, and it's really annoying.