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do we want this behavior on SpielByWeb
NO
21%
 21%  [ 10 ]
YES
4%
 4%  [ 2 ]
NO: maybe BlueGecko should be removed from SBW
70%
 70%  [ 33 ]
no opinion
4%
 4%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 47

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Kanga



Joined: 27 Oct 05
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Location: Moe, Victoria, Australia

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once anyone has abandoned a single game they are already banned I believe. Of course, this player is not abandoning them, just going on holiday for extended periods of time.
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Alashar



Joined: 08 Nov 05
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Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan USA

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The nimrod who voted yes in the poll was probably (drum roll): BlueGecko! Laughing

Even if he does get booted off the site, if he was Julius, he'll probably come back with a new handle and we'll go through this same dance all over again. Mad Shocked Crying or Very sad

And what could be done to prevent that? Confused
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Kanga



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little bit of vigilance is about all it takes. This sort of cheating is obvious if someone looks at his record.
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swok



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Location: amsterdam

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why 3 abanded games, after one its cleat enough that someone is not taking others serieus!! (if you are the one that makes a game not finishing)
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Early_10



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alashar wrote:
The nimrod who voted yes in the poll was probably (drum roll): BlueGecko! Laughing

Even if he does get booted off the site, if he was Julius, he'll probably come back with a new handle and we'll go through this same dance all over again. Mad Shocked Crying or Very sad

And what could be done to prevent that? Confused


They could ban his ip from the site. He could still get around it but it would take more effort than its worth.
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Grudunza



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just signed up at http://www.yucata.de and started two games. I noticed this morning that it was my move in both games, so I clicked on one arbitrarily but it wouldn't let me play that one until I had made the move in my "older game" (the one I had apparently created first).

Perhaps something like that could be implemented here? That would certainly solve this kind of problem from ever happening again.
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RyanMC
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have sent a message to the player in question.
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smlait



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Location: alberta, canada

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grudunza wrote:
I just signed up at http://www.yucata.de and started two games. I noticed this morning that it was my move in both games, so I clicked on one arbitrarily but it wouldn't let me play that one until I had made the move in my "older game" (the one I had apparently created first).

Perhaps something like that could be implemented here? That would certainly solve this kind of problem from ever happening again.


That would drive me batty! Sometimes, I'm checking in quickly and have time to take a turn in Amun Re or Santiago, but not enough time to think through a turn in Tikal or Reef Encounter. I'll come back and make those turns later. On that same note, if I'm stopping in to take all my turns (as is normal), I like to do each game type at a time. My brain works better that way! Smile
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Kanga



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, the yucata system is very annoying. In almost 2 years here this is the first time I remember someone abusing ths system like this, so it is not much of a problem.

Glad to see Ryan has sent him a message, but that's almost too lenient. There is nothing to explain here, just finish his games and ban him (remove him from the stats too if you can, as that's obviously the only thing that motivates him).
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stargate



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smlait wrote:
Grudunza wrote:
I just signed up at http://www.yucata.de and started two games. I noticed this morning that it was my move in both games, so I clicked on one arbitrarily but it wouldn't let me play that one until I had made the move in my "older game" (the one I had apparently created first).

Perhaps something like that could be implemented here? That would certainly solve this kind of problem from ever happening again.


That would drive me batty! Sometimes, I'm checking in quickly and have time to take a turn in Amun Re or Santiago, but not enough time to think through a turn in Tikal or Reef Encounter. I'll come back and make those turns later. On that same note, if I'm stopping in to take all my turns (as is normal), I like to do each game type at a time. My brain works better that way! Smile


it would also drive me batty Rolling Eyes
some other problems ----
which game is next when you have 20 turns to take
you could not take your turns in tournament games before or after other games
you would not be able to play a fast 2 -player game until other turns were completed first
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Grudunza



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, alright... Sheesh. It was just a suggestion! Laughing

But seriously, perhaps it could be adapted to work within a single game. So you couldn't play a different game of Amun Re before taking a turn in another game of Amun Re where you've waited longer. But that wouldn't affect your games of Tikal, etc.
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stargate



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grudunza wrote:
Okay, alright... Sheesh. Just trying to help! Laughing


you did nothing wrong Smile Smile Smile
your just up against a lot of experience Smile
and a fear that some idea that does not get shot down might become law Sad
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freduk



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Location: Bristol, UK

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kanga wrote:
Glad to see Ryan has sent him a message, but that's almost too lenient. There is nothing to explain here, just finish his games and ban him (remove him from the stats too if you can, as that's obviously the only thing that motivates him).

I'm also glad to see that Ryan has sent him a message. This is by far the most appropriate course of action. It's a warning, and gives the player a chance to redeem himself.
I'm far less happy to see the witch-hunt, and calls for banning.

As for the suggestion that games can only be played in history order, I'm with the 'no' camp, but I might go along with a suggestion that any games that have 'gone red' have to be addressed before you can action current games. But that would require developer effort, and I'd much rather see new games.
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Grudunza



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stargate wrote: "you did nothing wrong"

Oh, I know... I was just reacting to the quick shouting down. Very Happy
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JimF



Joined: 02 Jun 05
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Location: Banstead, Surrey

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in Game 33426 with BG and since writing a message to ask him about the allegations in this thread he has taken another move but has not responded to the message.

I said in my earlier response that I would take no further moves in this game until he finishes some of his other games. However, one worrying thought is that I may then end up with an abandoned game against my name! So I'm left in a position where I have to take moves just so we can get to Turn 6 with either him winning or the game stalling on the final score. Sad
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