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Kanga · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 5:20 am Post subject: 3 player tournaments 9-13

5 tournaments starting now.. 3 players get to play in 2 tournaments, making it 42 individual players. The 3 players do not include any previous finalists in these tournaments, so it's unlikely we'll have one person winning two tournaments.

The games are to be played on:

Game 1: Map 117 no var
Game 2: Map 145 variant 1
Game 3: Map 181 var 2
Game 4: Map 187 var 1 var 2

All games password: tournament
Please copy and paste the game name from this page so it is copied EXACTLY the way I have it. This is very important for me looking up game progress...

Copy the player names into the comments field.

If someone has not joined within 24 hours, please send them a message. I may not get to check for a few days, and anyway with 42 players it's a huge task to check on everyone.

3player T9 1A kxw ddv0102 Kanga
3player T9 1B IBX flaviorj Alashar
3player T9 1C marcx Rebelslayer tphon

3player T9 2A kxw IBX marcx
3player T9 2B ddv0102 flaviorj Rebelslayer
3player T9 2C Kanga Alashar tphon

3player T9 3A kxw flaviorj tphon
3player T9 3B ddv0102 Alashar marcx
3player T9 3C Kanga IBX Rebelslayer

3player T9 4A kxw Alashar Rebelslayer
3player T9 4B ddv0102 IBX tphon
3player T9 4C Kanga flaviorj marcx

3player T10 1A almondralf ahauwi1 koinski
3player T10 1B t_o_m9 smlait brianlcarr
3player T10 1C docaction gman44 Payton3434

3player T10 2A almondralf t_o_m9 docaction
3player T10 2B ahauwi1 smlait gman44
3player T10 2C koinski brianlcarr Payton3434

3player T10 3A almondralf smlait Payton3434
3player T10 3B ahauwi1 brianlcarr docaction
3player T10 3C koinski t_o_m9 gman44

3player T10 4A almondralf brianlcarr gman44
3player T10 4B ahauwi1 t_o_m9 Payton3434
3player T10 4C koinski smlait docaction

3player T11 1A Djura lindalait gische
3player T11 1B Dobinator madewelt cterrell
3player T11 1C Jernau25 tlc marcx

3player T11 2A Djura Dobinator Jernau25
3player T11 2B lindalait madewelt tlc
3player T11 2C gische cterrell marcx

3player T11 3A Djura madewelt marcx
3player T11 3B lindalait cterrell Jernau25
3player T11 3C gische Dobinator tlc

3player T11 4A Djura cterrell tlc
3player T11 4B lindalait Dobinator marcx
3player T11 4C gische madewelt Jernau25

3player T12 1A Payton3434 shampoon skk7878
3player T12 1B freduk worcesterarlo hagin
3player T12 1C SunLion GamesOnTheBrain wildscrpio

3player T12 2A Payton3434 freduk SunLion
3player T12 2B shampoon worcesterarlo GamesOnTheBrain
3player T12 2C skk7878 hagin wildscrpio

3player T12 3A Payton3434 worcesterarlo wildscrpio
3player T12 3B shampoon hagin SunLion
3player T12 3C skk7878 freduk GamesOnTheBrain

3player T12 4A Payton3434 hagin GamesOnTheBrain
3player T12 4B shampoon freduk wildscrpio
3player T12 4C skk7878 worcesterarlo SunLion

3player T13 1A Adriaan Pieters toutoune goforit
3player T13 1B Wolfpack shugyosha tphon
3player T13 1C striking_cobra thiery'en'sarjant tammykins

3player T13 2A Adriaan Pieters Wolfpack striking_cobra
3player T13 2B toutoune shugyosha thiery'en'sarjant
3player T13 2C goforit tphon tammykins

3player T13 3A Adriaan Pieters shugyosha tammykins
3player T13 3B toutoune tphon striking_cobra
3player T13 3C goforit Wolfpack thiery'en'sarjant

3player T13 4A Adriaan Pieters tphon thiery'en'sarjant
3player T13 4B toutoune Wolfpack tammykins
3player T13 4C goforit shugyosha striking_cobra

tphon · Joined: 02 Nov 07 Posts: 219 Location: Wirral, England

Oops, map 81 is not public

tphon · Joined: 02 Nov 07 Posts: 219 Location: Wirral, England

Kanga, I just notice you created your game with map 181, is this the correct one to use, not 81

Payton3434 · Joined: 28 Dec 06 Posts: 690

I followed his lead Kanga and made it map 181 instead of 81 for the game 3

Jeff

Kanga · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:31 am Post subject:

Yes, it was meant to be 181, and I've edited the original post to show this. Thanks for pointing it out.

SunLion · Joined: 29 Jun 07 Posts: 53 Location: Gloucestershire, UK

Just out of interest, what sort of method do you use for chosing which people play against each other in which tournament. I only ask because it so happens I know (in real life) three others who regularly take part in these tourneys, worcesterarlo, Jernau25 and striking_cobra. Worcesterarlo is almost always in the same tourney as me and the other two more rarely. I don't think I've ever played a tournament game against striking_cobra. It seems that way anyway, if I did the math I may find it is more even.

Please note, this post is intended only as a polite enquiry. I have no complaints at all and am very very happy that you organise these tournaments so well and so frequently. Thank you.

Kanga · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject:

I use a different method each time. The first few tournaments were done in order of entry (ie the first 9 players played in Tournament 1, etc). In other tournaments I've sorted alphabetically; by average turn speed; by winning percentage; by games played; and on this occasion, by games won.

I'm starting to lean towards choosing winning %, simply because it produces more interesting tournaments. The same players were dominating every tournament; and the same players were winless. In the current 4 player tournaments I sorted by win%, and we have a much more even contest. In tournament 4, 13 of the 16 players have won 1 game, and only 3 have won 2 or more. Tournament 5 has 9 of 16 winning 1. Both tournaments still have games to finish, so that might increase the spread too.

However I'm interested in people's thoughts. So far I've been making it up as I go along.

SunLion · Joined: 29 Jun 07 Posts: 53 Location: Gloucestershire, UK

Thanks for the explanation. I think the similar win rates method is a good one.

It feels a lot better in a tournament to be playing against folks with similar ability. I guess the only 'problem' could be the one I saw earlier, of always playing against the same opponents.

Do you go with how many tournament games won or overall win rate?

Kanga · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject:

overall, simply because it's too time consuming to do otherwise.

however now I have a larger tournament database, if I get time I'll put together a overall win / loss list, and publish that. It could then be used.

toutoune · Joined: 23 Jul 06 Posts: 120 Location: Paris, France

[quote]3player T13 4B toutoune Wolfpack tammykins[/quote]

password does'nt work

hagin · Joined: 12 Aug 07 Posts: 121 Location: Perth, WA

I'd be happier if the win ratios were (or could) reflect the # player games you've played. Doing a 3 player tournament by winning % in 3 player games makes sense but if someone plays only 5 player and wins 40% why should they be in the same bucket as someone who only plays 2 player and wins 40%?

I once again reiterate my calls to break down winning % by # player games and to change the 10/50/100 min. game rankings to last 10/50/100 (which also implies minimum).

IBX · Joined: 22 Jun 07 Posts: 214

Kanga · Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject:

Kanga · Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject:

hagin · Joined: 12 Aug 07 Posts: 121 Location: Perth, WA

Wow, first game to have ended?

3player T12 4A

Payton3434 96 (-7)
hagin 103 (w)
GamesOnTheBrain (-7)

Was a hard fought game. Interestingly all of us had 95 points before money....