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HappyProle
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 Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: Werewolves on SBW? |
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| We've been thinking about how to add werewolves as play-by-web game on SBW, and whether it makes sense or not. Would this work, and if so, how would it work best? |
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Joseph
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: Werewolves on SBW? |
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| HappyProle wrote: | | We've been thinking about how to add werewolves as play-by-web game on SBW, and whether it makes sense or not. Would this work, and if so, how would it work best? |
Unlike the other games here, WW doesn't work well with just a clickable input option. Most of the game is deciphering who is a werewolf by their reactions to discussions in the game. A "werewolf lite" game might be possible, allowing votes, and maybe some type of "I suspect ____" option, but in general the game doesn't translate well outside of a message board.
If anyone's interested, PM me. There's quite a few sites around the web where this is played. |
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Worm
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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from the other thread:
Just brainstorming, but things you would need:
1. random role assignment mechanism
2. role functions programmed in - start with the basics (seer gets a view, angel gets a protection, BG's get a kill, maybe a vigilante, etc.), and have them automated so whoever has the role can select their action and target during the night phase
3. automated vote counting and vote tally display - some drop down menus where you can select a person to vote for and perhaps enter a reason
4. an easy to use message board interface for general player interaction (maybe a separate place for the BG's to converse)
Seems like it wouldn't be too hard to implement with some effort. I know if you guys did get something like that working here that it would get a lot of use. |
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Worm
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: Werewolves on SBW? |
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| Joseph wrote: | | HappyProle wrote: | | We've been thinking about how to add werewolves as play-by-web game on SBW, and whether it makes sense or not. Would this work, and if so, how would it work best? |
Unlike the other games here, WW doesn't work well with just a clickable input option. Most of the game is deciphering who is a werewolf by their reactions to discussions in the game. A "werewolf lite" game might be possible, allowing votes, and maybe some type of "I suspect ____" option, but in general the game doesn't translate well outside of a message board.
If anyone's interested, PM me. There's quite a few sites around the web where this is played. |
Roscoe,
I think it would work if you automated a lot of the tedious stuff, but left the basic thing that keeps it going, the player interaction. So some sort of message board portion would be a requirement, but automating voting and roles and such would be really cool for basic games. |
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Joseph
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: Werewolves on SBW? |
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| Worm wrote: | | Joseph wrote: | | HappyProle wrote: | | We've been thinking about how to add werewolves as play-by-web game on SBW, and whether it makes sense or not. Would this work, and if so, how would it work best? |
Unlike the other games here, WW doesn't work well with just a clickable input option. Most of the game is deciphering who is a werewolf by their reactions to discussions in the game. A "werewolf lite" game might be possible, allowing votes, and maybe some type of "I suspect ____" option, but in general the game doesn't translate well outside of a message board.
If anyone's interested, PM me. There's quite a few sites around the web where this is played. |
Roscoe,
I think it would work if you automated a lot of the tedious stuff, but left the basic thing that keeps it going, the player interaction. So some sort of message board portion would be a requirement, but automating voting and roles and such would be really cool for basic games. |
So the voting/role options interfaces would be contained in a frame around the message board interface? That probably would be workable. |
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Worm
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Werewolves on SBW? |
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| Joseph wrote: | | Worm wrote: | | Joseph wrote: | | HappyProle wrote: | | We've been thinking about how to add werewolves as play-by-web game on SBW, and whether it makes sense or not. Would this work, and if so, how would it work best? |
Unlike the other games here, WW doesn't work well with just a clickable input option. Most of the game is deciphering who is a werewolf by their reactions to discussions in the game. A "werewolf lite" game might be possible, allowing votes, and maybe some type of "I suspect ____" option, but in general the game doesn't translate well outside of a message board.
If anyone's interested, PM me. There's quite a few sites around the web where this is played. |
Roscoe,
I think it would work if you automated a lot of the tedious stuff, but left the basic thing that keeps it going, the player interaction. So some sort of message board portion would be a requirement, but automating voting and roles and such would be really cool for basic games. |
So the voting/role options interfaces would be contained in a frame around the message board interface? That probably would be workable. |
What I am imagining is a game that on the surface looks like any of the other SBW games. Maybe there are multiple tabs or something. So on one tab, you'd have all the automated stuff, like where you could vote, where you can see a vote tally, etc., and then the other tab would be where the discussion was. The key would be making sure the discussion portion was easy to ready and follow. |
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HappyProle
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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My initial thoughts were that it wouldn't be very structured: at minimum a way for the moderator to send game messages to the players, gather votes, kill players... and a way for the players to communicate freely with each other.
If possible, I'd also like to set it up so that variants would be easy to create - with the moderator essentially posting the rules and naming the different roles. |
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HappyProle
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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(I authored that last message of mine before reading your replies.)
What would need to be changed (if anything) from the existing SBW game message functionality? You can freely post messages there with timestamps. |
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Worm
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| HappyProle wrote: | My initial thoughts were that it wouldn't be very structured: at minimum a way for the moderator to send game messages to the players, gather votes, kill players... and a way for the players to communicate freely with each other.
If possible, I'd also like to set it up so that variants would be easy to create - with the moderator essentially posting the rules and naming the different roles. |
The big benefit to something like this would be to automating the tedious parts of playing / modding, which would mainly center around voting / vote tallys. If you could come op with a system which could keep track of players and where players could select their votes and see an automated tally, that would be a HUGE step up. |
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Smoo
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| That we're even having this discussion gives me a semi-chub. |
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Worm
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| HappyProle wrote: | (I authored that last message of mine before reading your replies.)
What would need to be changed (if anything) from the existing SBW game message functionality? You can freely post messages there with timestamps. |
Well, first, we play big games with 30-40 people, and there are literally thousands of posts before the game is finished, so it would need to be formatted to handle this. Second, you need to be able to quote people, like in a true message board format, to be able to play properly. |
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inHim
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Worm wrote: | | HappyProle wrote: | My initial thoughts were that it wouldn't be very structured: at minimum a way for the moderator to send game messages to the players, gather votes, kill players... and a way for the players to communicate freely with each other.
If possible, I'd also like to set it up so that variants would be easy to create - with the moderator essentially posting the rules and naming the different roles. |
The big benefit to something like this would be to automating the tedious parts of playing / modding, which would mainly center around voting / vote tallys. If you could come op with a system which could keep track of players and where players could select their votes and see an automated tally, that would be a HUGE step up. |
:scum: is very close to automated tallying. Very close. |
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Worm
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| inHim wrote: | | Worm wrote: | | HappyProle wrote: | My initial thoughts were that it wouldn't be very structured: at minimum a way for the moderator to send game messages to the players, gather votes, kill players... and a way for the players to communicate freely with each other.
If possible, I'd also like to set it up so that variants would be easy to create - with the moderator essentially posting the rules and naming the different roles. |
The big benefit to something like this would be to automating the tedious parts of playing / modding, which would mainly center around voting / vote tallys. If you could come op with a system which could keep track of players and where players could select their votes and see an automated tally, that would be a HUGE step up. |
:scum: is very close to automated tallying. Very close. |
Yes, but it's :scum: .... |
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RyanMC
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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One thing that I would be interested in hearing thoughts on:
If the system knew who was a a ww and who could speak at night.
Knew the vote tally.
Knew who could have a viewing.
Knew who could fire back upon death.
Would there need to be a moderator. Would an open message system that allowed certain roles to communicate at night etc... make it so a game could be moderator less. Obviously some variants would need a moderator, but a basic game set would seem possible to me with totally random role assignment and pure automation.
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Joseph
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| RyanMC wrote: | One thing that I would be interested in hearing thoughts on:
If the system knew who was a a ww and who could speak at night.
Knew the vote tally.
Knew who could have a viewing.
Knew who could fire back upon death.
Would there need to be a moderator. Would an open message system that allowed certain roles to communicate at night etc... make it so a game could be moderator less. Obviously some variants would need a moderator, but a basic game set would seem possible to me with totally random role assignment and pure automation. |
for a basic game, you could probably run it without a moderator. Once you start adding more advanced roles though, things are never quite as clearcut and a mod probably would be necessary. |
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