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Saul Pum · Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject: to administrator

Had a wierd situation. a Person threw the game for another person to win, refusing to put stones on his land so that the other guy would get most temples on both sides. Is there anything to stop this? And could it be the same guy with 2 computers? The game name was Egyption havok. Payton3434 in the rewards section refused to take a stone and put in on the east side of nile allowing player Docaction to take most temples on both sides of the nile. I even pointed out before his move that Docaction put just enough on both sides to tie me and him, and he still allowed the other guy to have it. It was very coordinated. I doubt you will do anything, but what defense do we have against poeple with multiple computers?

Payton3434 · Joined: 28 Dec 06 Posts: 690

Adminstrator,

This was an honest mistake, I knew I needed more points and had no power cards that gave me any points

I have played over 600 games in the last year and can't believe someone is saying that I cheated.

I would never let another person win on purpose, my goal is to win the game

thank you

Saul Pum · Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject:

This may be the case Payton. And in that event i am sorry. But the real point of this note is simply, what protection do we have against friends or the same person choosing persons to win. Perhaps it is none, i am new to this veniew and am seeking guidance.

Saul Pum · Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:21 pm Post subject:

by the way , in that game, you were 18 points down when you tried to win the game by taking one card. This was why i thought you had decided to give it to the other guy.

Saul Pum · Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:59 pm Post subject:

Also take into account you have been in 9 previous games with docaction before and he has won every single one. No, i think i am right on the mark here when considering the way he won this one. 3 points is the maximum pionts you couldve gotten by getting one card, and being down 18 points, all you did was make sure he won yet again.

striking_cobra · Joined: 07 Dec 05 Posts: 107 Location: Gloucester, UK

You have only been here a month and already you are accusing people of cheating! Please wash your dirty laundry elsewhere.

tphon · Joined: 02 Nov 07 Posts: 219 Location: Wirral, England

I also have not been here long but in that time I have managed to make many mistakes. None of these have been an attempt to help another player and I haven't even checked if they did, just sitting here kicking myself.

I enjoy playing several games at the same time and in so doing do not always check any secondary benefit between other players there may be as long as I gain a net benefit where it matters.

I am also worried that new and novice players will be put off from playing for fear of being accused of cheating when making either a click mistake or a poor move, as I am sure many of us have. There are certainly enough threads complaining about click errors.

I had wanted to ask my wife to join so she can enjoy the same games we play FtF with friends but she would be devastated to be accused of cheating as she is also capable of the odd mistake.

I understand the need to ensure we keep the site free from cheats and muliple players on the same computer may be an indicator but not proof.

There have been a couple of threads of this nature recently and I think it would be better to have a private area were members could report potential abuse. Admins could then check and take any appropriate action.

This has got to be better than honest players being abused in public and allows those who feel cheated to instigate an investigation without upsetting the innocent.

Paul

Bkruppa · Joined: 08 Nov 05 Posts: 241 Location: Fremont, Ca, USA

Saul Pum: While you are relatively new here, and have found what seems to be a common complaint, its important to remember a couple of things before airing any complaints: 1) saying things without proof is really assuming and when we assume we make an .... well you get the point; 2) many of the players, such as Docation and Payton have been here for a long time, played many games, and know each other from this gaming site -- its similar to joining a FTF gaming convention where the other members have been meeting for years together. When you've played with each other numerouss times, you get to know the moves of the others well and being to predict/react not just react to their behaviors. What you might have noticed in your game was nothing more than Payton knowing that Docation would eventually win regardless of his move, so he was just attempting to retrieve every possible point for himself. If you're quite confident that there was wrongdoing, make a mental note and don't play with them again. Or, create a game and challenge them to a rematch. Wink

Just some food for thought from someone that early on, had similar feelings and then realized I just suck so I play for the fun not the win. Shocked

milksheikh · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:54 am Post subject:

rseulow · Joined: 04 May 04 Posts: 240 Location: New York, NY

The best way to prevent this sort of thing is to avoid playing certain people.

I, for example, would choose not to join games created by Saul Pum. He appears to be a bad sport.

Saul Pum · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:28 am Post subject:

Ah, there were a few good points there, but i dont agree with all. I am sorry for ruffling feathers. I am still trying to figure out how to contact the administrator directly.

mdfreeman7 · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: