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game 55983 Wally one 25 - unfair loss of action!!!!!!!

 
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yahkeh



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Location: Pittsburgh,PA,USA

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:16 am    Post subject: game 55983 Wally one 25 - unfair loss of action!!!!!!! Reply with quote

In this game I lost a province(Mittelmark) that I had marked for troop expansion to the expansionistic efforts of one of my opponents, but gained it right back in a counterattack BEFORE the supply 5 action was executed: the system still regarded this province as lost and disregarded the supply selection - this puts me in an unfair disadvantage - any fix?????
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Big



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No fix needed.

Rules section 10

If the attacker wins, he conquers the province, and immediately takes control of it. If it was selected by the defender for a not yet executed action, that action will be cancelled.
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Knave



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was fairly surprised the first time that happened to me too Smile. The way I see it, going first in the turn order generally sucks, so this rule evens out that disadvantage slightly.
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TMJJS



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a face-to-face game, you immediately give the province card to your oppenent when you lose the province. Therefore, there is no card on that action on your board. If you win back the province (or win any other province) you get the card from your oppenent, but can't place the card on any actions for that turn.

Therefore it makes perfect sense in a face-to-face game, but is a surprise the 1st (couple?) time on-line.
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freduk



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or, think of it that the folks in Mittelmark who were going to sign up (or mine gold or harvest or build etc) got involved in fighting an invasion instead that season. So instead of doing what they had planned (some gardening, or maybe decorating the bedroom) they had to fight the enemy instead. By the time friendly troops arrived to re-take the province, their time for building/harvesting etc had passed.
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Big



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great analogy Freduk! Laughing
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Darius van Duyn



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile And what about this analogy: peasants in country do harvests. Than enemy army conquer territory and commander of that army says: excellent, finish harvests so I will have grain for my troops. And so peasants continue harvesting. Than a friendly army relieve territory from enemy forces and now, here they are, peasants smiling at friendly soldiers with granaries and storehouses overflowing with a first-grade quality wheat ....Smile
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stargate



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

history will show >>>>

the enemy forces burned the granaries and storehouses before being run out of the territory

results ---
the peasants starve and revolt
the peasants discover the Internet and post spam to SpielByWeb
the peasants change the name of the the territory to Alabama
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Bkruppa



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I didn't realize you were a history buff too Bob!?
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freduk



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was there when it happened. The first time.
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Rebelslayer



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean ... Bob was there -before- the dinosaurs?

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stargate



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rebelslayer wrote:
You mean ... Bob was there -before- the dinosaurs?

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yes, I was Laughing
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yahkeh



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed Embarassed guess it would've helped to read the rules..... Embarassed Embarassed
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